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The Cleveland Show
Nov 03 2010, 10:15 AM by Marty Flanagan
Jill Behm and Marty Piombo were one of the first alliances
formed on Survivor: Nicaragua, and were firmly in control
of the Espada tribe in it's early days. But it wouldn't be
Survivor without a few unforeseen twists, and a major
tribe shake-up in week 5 left Jill and Marty badly outnumbered on
the La Flor tribe, surrounded by younger players and their
adversarial fellow La Flor alum Jane. Here Jill talks about
the ups and downs of her once powerful alliance, and how their
stronghold on the game slipped away.
Did Marty tell you that he had made a deal for the idol before you
went into tribal council?
Yes, I knew all of it.Were you upset with him?
Well, there was not a lot we could do. We were down in
numbers 2 to 5, and we tried making inroads with Sash and Fabio,
and couldn't get anyone to swing over with us. So Marty told
me, "Sash said that they're sending you home tonight. I can
either play the idol and they'll send you home by splitting the
vote, or I can give Sash the idol and they said they'd give it back
to me once you're gone." So either way I was going
home.From watching the show, though, Sash was talking about
sending Marty home that night. Do you have any insight into
what happened that caused them to go back to voting for
I don't, other than possibly they assessed that I was a bigger
threat to win individual immunity should there be a merge.
Those last couple episodes where it was one on one in individual
challenges, I was pretty solid in that. Better than anyone
actually.You and Marty were put at a real disadvantage when the
tribes were shaken up. Did you two decide strategically that
he was going to show everyone that he had the immunity
Which time? We did it once with Espada and once with La
Flor.With La Flor, the second time, after the tribe
The reason we did it at La Flor was because we had done it at
Espada so Jane knew we had it. Better that they found out
from him than from Jane.So the first time you did it was a display of power, but
this time you were just trying to get out ahead of
The first time wasn't a display of power, actually, and this is
something not shown. Jimmy Johnson tricked Marty into telling
him he had the idol. He told him that he overheard him in the
confessional, and bluffed him, and Marty admit that he had
it.Jimmy Johnson did this? He didn't seem the crafty
Well there's a lot of editing going on. So we said, "you know
what, JJ knows about this." And at the time we didn't have
control of the tribe so we were like, "let's get it out
there." And then you see Jimmy T, when Marty did reveal that
he had it, he was like, "oh, that strengthens the tribe." So
that part worked out really well for us. Although Jane knew
we had it, and she told La Flor, and that was the beginning of the
end for us.Sash was revealed in the last episode as having a bit of a
devious side with his proposed deal with Marty. Were you
surprised by that?
Not really, because when we got to La Flor it was readily apparent
that Sash and Brenda were the brains behind the operation.
Kelly was just doing what they were telling her to do, and Fabio
didn't have much of a social game other than that he really didn't
like the drama that would kick up. It upset him and he didn't
really want to be part of it. But it didn't surprise us at
all that Sash and Brenda were the ones calling the shots.Jeff Probst seemed like he was trying to drive a wedge into
the tribe based on Sash's slip-up when talking about trust at
tribal council. How much solidarity do you see in that group,
and where does Jane stand with them?
Jane made her bed and she's going to have to lie in it. She
said that we treated her like the ugly duckling on the tribe, and
we did no such thing. She was just picking alliances with
Wendy Jo who got voted off, and Jimmy T who got voted off.
She never came to Marty and I and said, "I want in with you
guys." We never gave her the shaft or turned on her.
And all of La Flor, except for Fabio and purple Kelly, are making
alliances with people who are lying and untrustworthy. So it
will be interesting to see how it turns out for them.Jane seemed to catch the best bounce with the tribe
Holly did too. She would have gone next for our tribe after
the shoe incident. So Jane and Holly both caught a HUGE break
with that.Do you think that Sash has any intention of giving the
immunity idol back to Marty, as he promised?
If Sash did opt to give it back to him, great, but I won't be
overly shocked if he doesn't.Marty talked about it being a dumb move, but it might have
been his only choice, right?
He could have stayed by playing it, but it immediately ensures that
everybody's going to vote you next. There's nothing you can
do. This way, then maybe they'll keep him over Jane, or maybe
something will happen. I think real students of the game
appreciate it, I'm not sure the casual fan understands that.Realistically, Sash giving it back would be the dumb
move. Do you think Marty's been given a reprieve with the
merge arriving right when he's teetering on the
Oh sure, anything's better than what he's got going on now.
It can only go up for him from here!
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